Joe Hotai is the original reason I stopped drinking over 20 years ago! Former SAS Operator turned Podcast host at www.epichpodcast.co.nz and I sat down and had a great chat. We talked about creating a better future- we share our experiences so others can learn from our mistakes. Joe epitomises “humour and humility” – one of the tenets of the SAS. In a different chapter of his life now, he interviews NZSAS operators. Knowing Self Reflection, Sharing of mistakes and successes can help others- he strives to Learn from, assist and support people in achieving their goals in order to Create a Better Future! Show sponsored by www.realketonesaustralia.com the only proven fat loss and stress reducing ketone powder in the world.