Co-Host John Valentine speaks with Sam Burns of Hairless Ape Conspiracy on the transitions from boxing to MMA, being a beacon for masculinity by accident, and how he helps the local community along with wounded vets and why evolution is over rated. He is a Ranger qualified infantryman, current LEO, and BJJ blackbelt.

By Michael Kurcina

Mike credits his early military training as the one thing that kept him disciplined through the many years. He currently provides his expertise as an adviser for an agency within the DoD. Michael Kurcina subscribes to the Spotter Up way of life. “I will either find a way or I will make one”.

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