In this episode I talk with Brazilian Jujitsu black belt and retired LAPD SWAT cop Cliff Byerly about the realities of martial arts training and the value of being not just a practitioner of your craft but a scholar of it as well.

By Michael Kurcina

Mike credits his early military training as the one thing that kept him disciplined through the many years. He currently provides his expertise as an adviser for an agency within the DoD. Michael Kurcina subscribes to the Spotter Up way of life. “I will either find a way or I will make one”.

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